I Love Kevin Trudeau
Just thought I'd put that out there.
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Permalink Reply by Steven on -
Fuck anyone that condemns KT's TRUTH. They deserve all the sickness they won't be saved from.
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Permalink Reply by Robyn on -
Has anyone commenting in this forum actually done any research on Scientology, or the Illuminati and it's off shoot "secret societies" If you have, then you understand why I have questions about KT's endorsement of these groups. It's a contradiction to everything he promotes in his books. I would really like to hear from someone who can explain that. If you haven't and you have no idea what I'm talking about then do your homework before you comment, about my comment.
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Permalink Reply by che on -
What book do i need to read to understand what you saying? Honestly. I'll read em. I'm still fat so i'm spending alot of time in my room. I'm reading now instead of playing video games and waiting for family guy to come on. I'd like to know what your concerns are so i can make a more informed decision as to if i should trust kt. I was just saying what i've seen. If i'm not going to support kt and buy into his stuff that what is my alternative? What is my alternatives to scientogoly? Phyciatrist and phycologist? Been there and done that. I've heard that scientogoly cost money but they get results. I have some great zoloft stories if anyone would like to hear em. Who are you to critize anybody? Where were you when i was 320 pounds tyring to fiquire out why my life was soo screwed up even though i worked out every day like THEY told me to? If you had soo much information why didn't you spit it? If you had the same information kt did i sure could have used it in highschool. I can't think of anything worse than being overweight in a public american high school. Now that i think back i would have rather spend that time in prison.
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Permalink Reply by Robyn on
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I'm not criticising you Che, I actually admire your interest in finding the truth whatever that turns out to be and don't misunderstand me, the natural health stuff in his books is right. I have absolutely no doubt about it.
There are some other issues about him that concern me..( I'll e-mail you later about your questions.)
Your curiosity is a wonderful gift, it helps you to learn to think outside the box I still have many questions myself, that's why I brought this up and I can only share the info. I have.
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. You'll have to draw your own conclusions.
I really believe as long as you keep and open mind and never give up on the searching for answers, you will find what your looking for. You're here...asking questions. What a great start.
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Permalink Reply by KnowNow on -
I use techniques that I read about in a scientology book, they really work well.
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Permalink Reply by che on
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Well. Thats pretty interesting. I'll definatly have to ask kt about that if i ever get a chance to talk to him. He owes me a phone call since i'm a lifetime member. I've been holding off talking to him because i'm always in a crappy negetive mood and have trouble thinking clearly. Since i'll have a limited time on the phone with him i want to make sure that i only ask him good well thought out intelligent questions. I'm definatly going to ask him about scientology. Does scientology do anything thats good for people? When scientologist become the only religion and then wipe every body else out, then what?
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Permalink Reply by KnowNow on
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Robyn is right on point about scientology. All religions seek to control and subdue us. However, the techniques they use for pain work very well.
Most if not all religions have stolen secret knowledge and give us bits and pieces of it. However much of what they give does work.
But, it is wrong of them to pretend it can only be bought to you by them.
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Permalink Reply by TimG on -
Robyn,
You teaching Scientology is about the same order of magnitude as Jesse Jackson relaying the Word of Buddha. It doesn't work.
You simply cannot take a couple of paragraphs of some book and claim this is what Scientology all about. It's comparable to taking the Book of Ezekiel (Old Testament) and saying the Holy Bible is all about space aliens. I'm sorry but it's idiocy.
There is sound logic to "removing" insane individuals from one's influence. Say you have a business and some passive-aggressive is undercutting everything you do. What are you going to do, keep him on the payroll?
No. You'd fire him on the spot. You BECOME one "who advocates the silencing of those who oppose them."
Make sense?
So far as Scientologists themselves go, they advocate literacy, a drug-free existence, counselling criminals, the eradication of the misguidance and criminality of psychiatry. Many are heavily into natural health, nutrition and fitness.
In St Petersburg, FL this past March, they had a walkathon promoting the awareness of Universal Declaration of Human Rights as sponsored by the United Nations (did you know there was a Universal Declaration of Human Rights?!? I didn't neither. Visit this UN link), of which over 2,000 people attended.
I'm not saying every Scientologist is the epitamy of moral rightness (I work with a few). But I am saying your picture is prejudiced and unfair.
By the way, you may not have noticed when you asked me to accept you as a "friend" on my profile, but I live in Clearwater and one of my favorite books is "Dianetics."
I do have something to say on the topic of religion in general, but I think I'll post that comment in the "Spirituality" topic.
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Permalink Reply by Robyn on
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Well, the old saying goes, don't talk religion or politics with your family and friends. I did miss the Dianetics book on your list, but I probably would have said it anyways.You have a right to defend what you believe in, but so do I. So since we're cyber friends, I guess I will be easy to delete(if you want to)
I don't think I have taken anything out of context or misrepresented it. That's what he said.
The reason I read Ron Hubbards book was because I thought about joining Scientology. I did not become one, so maybe you think I wouldn't be able to give a fair assessment of what the religion entails and I'm not trying to.
I simply pulled those paragraphs because my point is, any religion no matter how alluring it's message about the betterment of society, if it is intolerant to the point of eliminating people who disagree. It's dangerous and wrong.
(The people in Germany loved Hitler, because he was a great leader who pulled their country from a major depression.)
Your "removing insane individuals from one's influence" because they are undermining some one's work performance therefore "advocating the silence of those who oppose them" by firing them.... is not what the paragraphs I pulled from Ron Hubbards book mean.
One of Scientology's stated basic principles is that no one should be required to believe anything he has not inspected himself and found to be true.
But, apparently that only applies to those who "inspect" and are then in agreement with Ron Hubbards philosophies. What if you "inspect" and then you decide you don't agree?
This is Ron Hubbards actual quote.
“The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line — a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred — or simply quarantining them from the society.
Basically I would be deemed unreasonable and worthless and quarantined from society. Because I inspected and I disagree. So you might understand why I take a personal offense at his statements. I won't be "processed" by anyone
I don't care if you or anyone else wants to become a Scientologist or join any other religion, but the minute I think any individual or government or religion is infringing on my right to choose what I believe in or don't believe I will speak up in opposition.
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Permalink Reply by TimG on
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Robyn,
Yes, you are taking the statement out of context.
My example of "firing a passive-agressive" is taking that particular paragraph you quoted on a much smaller scale--although I neglected to say in my example that you'd probably talk to the guy first (counsel) to get him to see reason before you fired his ass.
On a society-wide scale, the statement would still hold true, theoretically. If you can't counsel them to sanity, friggin' get rid of them so they're not destroying society!
I should point out that Psychiatry and our Justice system attempt to put that theory into practice. And society is failing with that practice. More people are drugged, jailed or put into institutions than any point in our history.
So keep in mind that this is theory, not telling readers to go on a murderous rampage or go around jailing whole masses.
Absolutely: If it's true for you, it is true. I don't agree with "everything Scientology", but I am capable of tolerating what I disagree with, same as I would with Christianity or any other religion.
The beauty of it is, because of what I DO believe in, I know all of my neighbors and regardless of our religious differences, we can be friends and live in peace.
And that should be the goal of any religion.
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