My Conversation with a professional skeptic about GIN.

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Permalink Reply by SoCalMatt on September 10, 2009 at 3:22pm

LMAO
that was fun to read.
he seems very focused on war and greed and negativity. "what you think about you bring about"

Good point at the end btw.
Money control's people like that. They hear money...they run. Waiting for someone to tap them on the shoulder and go "here ya go heres a nice bucket of success....for free, no need to expel energy". I encourage those people to hold their breath until it happens.
Money is soooo special to them that they can't fathom giving it to someone else to help themselves, who's greedy?

I'm rambling today lol, gotta get off this site.

one down, 3 billion more potential Members!

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on September 10, 2009 at 8:57pm

Yep, fun to read. Did I ever mention my real name is Elvin? We're not tripped up the "tuition fees" We're tripped up by the fact these people are the Illuminati. Saying there are "good guys" in this society, who are interested in the well being and successes of the masses, is like saying there are members of the KKK who promote equal rights. And by the way, what exactly have you been told the money is used for? Rashawn, do you really not understand the global plan of the Illuminati?(Elvin 1:16)

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Permalink Reply by Rashawn on September 10, 2009 at 9:55pm

lol Robyn.

I guess he wouldn't take my word for it when I told him prior that I've met them in person, and how they've done nothing to hurt or harm me in the past 4-5 years of our acquaintance.

I love how he accuses The founders of The Global Information Network as the owners of the U.S Central banking system with no grounds to make such accusations.

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Permalink Reply by che on September 10, 2009 at 10:40pm

I have a feeling robyn might actually be elvin.

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on September 11, 2009 at 12:03pm

They don't want to hurt you Rashawn, they want to use you to make money for them.
and about your question:
I (a.k.a Elvin) can answer that. I assume by U.S Central banking system you mean Federal Reserve:

Who owns the FED and controls the US government through the economy. The Rothschild's and the Bank of England. The Rothschild Group controls governments, (the USA through the privately-owned Federal Reserve System)
Its no big mystery now. The US Congress gave control of the government over to the (FED) private banks which means our country is not controlled by American citizens. (The Congress can take control away from the (FED) private bankers but they never will because the Congress is infested with politicians under the direct control of the FED,CFR etc. Many members of the Congress do the bidding of the CFR)

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The underpinning of all major Multi-National Corporations begins with the Rothschild Banking & Mining interests:

* Rothschild Group: Headquartered in London. Finances (in their words) “governments, corporations throughout the world” Here. The Rothschild Group has 47 offices world wide which include New York, Washington DC, Paris, Frankfort, Amsterdam, Rome, Johannesburg, Tel Aviv, Tokyo, Madrid, and Hong Kong.
~ Under David René James de Rothschild, (b 1942), son of Guy de Rothschild (1909-2007), the Rothschild Group controls governments, (the USA through the privately-owned Federal Reserve System), financial institutions, mining industries, and Multi-National Corporations throughout the world.

* De Beers Mining: Headquartered in Zurich Switzerland. Mines both gold and diamonds primarily in South Africa. (De Beers will not officially admit to “gold mining” because they fear accusations of being in control of the “gold standard.”)
~ Offices world-wide include London, Johannesburg, Canada, Australia, Angola, India, and Brazil. David Renà James de Rothschild is Chairman Here. Nicky Oppenheimer is Co-Chairman Here.
~ Not only do the Rothschilds control the mining of South African gold through De Beers, they also control its price. In London, all gold bullion passes through the hands of three firms who govern the price of gold from day to day. These are N. M. Rothschild & Sons, Mocatta & Goldsmid, and Samuel Montagu & Co Here.
~ Together with the Oppenheimer family, the Rothshilds through their French subsidiary Imetal S.A. once again, under David Renà James de Rothschild, have mining interests not only in iron, platinum, copper, zinc, tin, and coal throughout the world.

The reason Elvin said what he did is because of the connection of the Rothschild family to the Illuminati. No one can join the Illuminati, you have to be born into it.They are connected by bloodlines going back thousands and thousands of years in time, and they are very careful with keeping those bloodlines as pure as possible from generation to generation. Not many people knew who these families were exactly, but quite recently this has become known, due to people from the Illuminati who have left the Order and revealed the most remarkable information. So here are the names of the 13 families - the Secret Government

1. Astor
2. Bundy
3. Collins
4. DuPont
5. Freeman
6. Kennedy
7. Li (Chinese)
8. Onassis
9. Rockefeller
10. Rothschild
11. Russell
12. van Duyn
13. Merovingian (European Royal Families)

The following families are also interconnected with those above:

1. Reynolds
2. Disney
3. Krupp
4. McDonald

Maybe that will help you understand the reaction when you tell people your G.I.N is backed by the Illuminati and they freak out.
Maybe you should do some research on the Illuminati, before you take Kevin Trudeau's word for it that the G.I.N. is a "good" branch of an evil society. note: my comment above......

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Permalink Reply by Chanel/ok this is me on September 11, 2009 at 1:55pm

WOOOOW..... ROBYN easy on the masses, its not hard for anyone to grasp this, but it IS hard on the heart/soul to accept this.. G>I>N> is simply to us, what OBAMA is to America--NWO.

Thousands of years tho Robyn?? Are you sure about that number? So these are the Human/Alien families living and controlling everything among us huh.. LOL You are truly brilliant Robyn and Im speechless..*need to think.* I knew it was little to no hope for the not so royal/13 families and the rest of the world. I knew these people were beyond sick and we are just playing as their pawns in their chess game. Humanity is almost like a sad joke. Just like I thought, we're under the control of ROBOTS.. They dont value life, they value themselves and perserving their genetic makeup. People of color will be extinct soon of course, but all the other gene pools and non accepted and pure good hearted whites will also be tossed in the pot. As if I and most dont know that youve/theyve already have been[sorry]..

What started all this stuff tho ..like "I think Im better than that human being, so Im special" CRAP. Where did this hatred and deep seeded philosophy come from? This never seems to go away, it just dies down after massive murdering thru wars and disasters[some not natural]. Native American Indian, Slavery, Holocaust etc etc... Where are their feelings and humility? Why are their always ONLY a handful of really good people that come out of this every time. I am starting to get why people voluntarily commit suicide[not condoning it] but for someone like me, this is so devastating to the psyche that I believe one WOULD generally prefer to just concentrate on getting money[thinking maybe that would save them and family, at no matter what the cost to or on others and no matter how they do it]. Or maybe block this out of the mental using faith and hope[religion] etc. Or just flat out refuse to believe that what theyve been fed, since they were born, is a well orchestrated Playstation, Wii Game lol.. Your fate is in the hands of the one who holds the controller, not necessarily the one who created the game... haw haw I made that up..but thats interesting to say the least anyways.. Ranting as usual..

WTG Robyn for such an outstanding Reply to this discussion=]. I think I am halfway pass my shock of it all and going to make the best of this life. I have not given up and I will support any and every step towards the betterment of mankind as I am supposed to, meanwhile, I have to follow the laws of the land, yes, but I will not join in our own destruction sheeplessly blind to lifes true realities. I cant wait to read some of the responses...

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Permalink Reply by Chanel/ok this is me on September 11, 2009 at 2:56pm

Oh and Rashawn, your a wonderful person, I do think so. In all reality I understand where you and some of the others are coming from because I felt like you for about '2mins'. I also understand that MAN has always shown a learnd pattern of behavior when someone or something makes them feel like they might have make a mistake. Especially when so much is invested. Not saying your joining G>I>N> is a mistake just sayin.. You feel that guys mind was closed and he thinks your far gone. Now you have some solid evidence that Robyn dared to reveal in your discussion that backs that guy up about his feelings on the illuminati. Keep your mind open and not decieved. Its hard I know, they make you feel welcomed, but dig deeper...however, whatever your analysis, at the end of the day-since your already in too deep, I do hope you and the rest of the people on this site make a lot of money and continue to share the wealth and maybe get out if you figure out the truth, or believe what Robyn has tried to point out to you.

Hmm if the membership was $10-$1.50 per month, that would be a whole lot better than $1,000-$150.. No1 would still join because these people wouldve never allowed a lower bracket of people to know about this or get involved. Overpricing is a gimmick that brainwashes the consumer into believing that the product is better than the price. I can go deeper because these people are master minds and they are DEEP. For example, this site was a cheap gift to us where we exchange valuable info but as you can see we get none and/or distorted info..because we pay nothing. Notice Natural cures recommends mostly expensive products[Enemas etc] to maintain your health but in all reality those things such as procedures done on the body ARE not very natural at all. They force nature...and one knows even a computer cannot be forced to perform tasks to prematurely. They have revealed the truth along with lies to confuse you[for example;bible,torah,quran etc etc]. I choose to believe in myself and my true being and nature. Especially when I found out about "the ageless child". She/her immune system has overcome mostly all the disease and complications she had. Bottom line is the answers are there, we just have to find them ourselves and in our own time I assume. Because if it wasnt for KTs books, I would have thought these things since a child but never really knew the accuracy of the info and resorted back to be fearful of doctors, vacs, blah blah BUT going to the doctor and following their suggestions or treatment of whatever..ALL because I knew nothing else to do and the pressure and brainwashing of mainstream is almost at times unbearable. Ha now they are passing laws to toxify the body evermore so..

How do my short thought get to be such a long comment?? lol.. anyway I have hope/faith in you Rashawn, everything will work out for the best and thats it..

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on September 11, 2009 at 5:07pm

Thousands of years? well that depends on where you think the founders of the Illuminati come from. Most people who study this stuff trace the origins back to The Brotherhood of the Snake, you can research that on your own, but you will find much speculation and contradictions. I prefer to stick to now and what can be proven. I have my own theories, but they are just that "theories."

I hope anyone who reads my posts won't take my word for it. Anyone can "sound" like they know what they are talking about. Please, do keep an open mind, and always question what is perceived to be obvious.
I know that Rashawn, Che, Chuck, Matt and many others on this site are wonderful, honest, good hearted people, only trying to find a way out of this confusion. We clutch at any little glimmer of the truth because we are desperate for hope. It is because of people like this, I say the things I do, because I want you to keep thinking, trust your heart, don't follow someone because they tell you what you want to hear. Unfortunately I think these societies represent following the Pied Piper down a dead end road. Ultimately, you have to find the answers to life on your own. Following someone else will always lead you astray. I have great confidence in the future because I see people are still basically good but there are very powerful, evil people in the world who will use that to lure people into the web.

I do think that there are many proveable facts that tie the present day Illuminati, with our current oppression and the New World Order that is almost complete. I find it utterly impossible to believe there is a "good faction" within this group. They could not be "part of" and "oppose" it at the same time. If the G.I.N and the Neo-Tech Society had said they were former members who had left the Brotherhood in order to fight against their world domination agenda, I might have believed it, but we know that's not the case.

And Channel, I know what your talking about. Brown people beware, The Brotherhood don't like the Brothas. But, no worries this outspoken white sister will be included on the "hit list" as well. I'm ready.

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Permalink Reply by Chanel/ok this is me on September 11, 2009 at 10:39pm

Lmao your hilarious and very bold Robyn...we'll all be alright and Im with you and I feel you..lol

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Permalink Reply by che on September 11, 2009 at 11:53pm

Ynow what guys i'm convinced. I don't think i want anything to do with the illuminate. I'm going to quit G.I.N. Wow. I'm really looking foward to working hard for the rest of my life and paying extra taxes since i'm single. Thanks guys. I'm going to start going back to school and get myself a formal education. I think ill be just fine. I just realized last night that in order for me take home 50K i will actually have to make 80K. I'm sure i won't have a problem. Wow. 50K in my pocket a year. Its going to be sooo cool. I'm really gonna be big ballin. I would slso like to ask if anybody has fiqured out if our g.i.n commisions are going to be taxable or not. I remeber some lady asking kt if we had to fill out a 1090 i think it was but he wouldn't tell her. His response was to go talk to a tax proffesional. I going to have to get an offshore bank account? I actually have a friend from switzerland. He's pretty cool.

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Permalink Reply by che on September 12, 2009 at 5:31am

Yknow what i just thought of. I bet eventually there will be people out there who will actually get paid to say negetive things about G.I.N. Yknow. Making a living. Then they will actually be G.I.N skeptics.

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on September 14, 2009 at 4:11pm

Sorry Che, there's not much the Internal Revenue Service doesn't consider taxable income. The basics include: salaries, wages, tips, commissions, interest and dividends, and rents on property you lease,

Can't barter services either, according to "them". The value of noncash items must be determined and then counted as income.( I LOVE this one!, There's isn't even any money involved.) yea, whatever.

You can't put money in a foreign bank either (I don't care what KT, told you)to earn interest out of Uncle Sam's reach. If it's in your name and you can get to it, it's considered income.

And don't think for a minute you can get away with some underhanded ways to make a few extra bucks. The IRS specifically says kickbacks and embezzlement proceeds are taxable, too.

The tax folks don't care if you steal it, as long as they get their piece of the action. Remember, it was the IRS that tripped up Al Capone.

Maybe you should check out Deni's site and read the information on becoming sovereign. But, hey,I thought the G.I.N was suppose to teach you ways to avoid paying taxes? Why did he say go talk to a tax professional? Why not just say "Yes, you have to pay taxes on it." He would know that.

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