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William Banks(3rd yrmd) yea, you who have read his post know who he is......not a KT fan, has issues with some natural cures and has posted his opinions about this. Probably not very well liked in this community BUT......from every post I have read, regardless of whether I agreed with what he said, I never read any comments he posted that violated the Terms of Service Agreement we all -checked- when we joined.

He has been banned for life!

I'm not ok with this are you? I don't think anyone should be banned from this site because they have an unpopular opinion or they piss off a friend of the administrator of this site. In my opinion that means none of us are going to be able to trust this site to provide an honest open forum for discussing the validity of any of the varied issues we discuss here.

I think it is an under statement to say....this is very hypocritical coming from a site founded by a person who has complained so much about censorship.

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The comment about the arguments set-up by holistic trolls doesn't say "and I find William Banks to be exactly that", eh?

Care to share what the zero tolerance is about on Barefooters, since you bothered to go look and read it?

Barefootin' is a naturalistic approach to natural health ... nothing to do with Robert Barefoot ... I have never taken coral calcium and have no plans to do so.

You are 100% correct that their are lots out there with natural health as their current "pet rock." I go to a site, I'm looking for good information, not "media hype." Everyone should learn to look at websites, posts, blogs with and "I ain't buying your product, NOW what you got to tell me" attitude.

readReadREAD, make notes some-place like notepad, organize subject info into your My Favorite folders

RE-educate ... we've been "programmed" ... UNDO IT!!!!!!

Care to personally talk holistic health from a naturalistic prosepctive, no products sold? Link to the chatroom is on the main page of Barefooters. I'm there as many nights as humanly possible at 9pm ... something I've devoted myself to for 3 1/2 yrs now. I'd be glad to discuss holistic topics with you. I've got TONS of articles, urls, etc to back up what I believe. WB, I had to learn to make judgements very quickly, I'd gone 4 months with ZERO digestion ... that was this time 4 yrs ago and here I sit!!!

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I was just thinking about this, your coming over here calling me a troll;;I'm not sure what troll is all about but coming to this site to accuse someone of trolling makse you look like the one doing the trolling..
I don't know much about your site but I hope if I drop in I would be made feel welcome as people on this site made you feel welcome.
Why not tell us what your site is all about? I'm very interested,,,Barefoot is something that I like to do, my nearest beach is "bluffers Park." You can find it on the web. really cool 375' white cliffs,,, I try to start my day there every morning while the sun comes up.
I live on the top..the only trolling I do is fishing or looking for driftwood .

Huggs from william Banks, hugs not Pharma drugs ,,,hah ha.

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Banks, Trollin' is just prowlin the threads/forums starting discussions and saying stupid things just to invoke any kind of response from someone.

I.E When you starting sayin a bunch of crap about Kevin T. He thought you were trolling.

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WB, Barefooters has no forums .. it is built as a holistic library where folks can go read in presently 132 groups of organized info on all kinds of topics. It's about building a healthy body that can CURE itself. All but a very few personally written articles are by recognized-in-their-fields professional holist health writers.

Lucky you that a beach is your back yard!!! There ain't much better in my world than walking in the surf, the sun on my body, the ocean breeze tossling my hair, God made ozone filling my lungs ... grounded, connected, grateful!!

"hugs, not drugs" ... y'all, I think I like this man.

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Brain,
I had to look for your comment. Always the gentleman I see..

Well, ok, next time you are in a terrible accident, your arm is mangled, practically severed and you are bleeding to death, take some herbs. maybe you'll heal before all the blood drains from your body. If by chance you survive, then instead of taking any painkillers to deaden the excruciating pain, drink a fifth of whisky, that's all natural, and then when you're all healed up and your arm looks like a tiny shriveled piece of meat, that doesn't work anymore.....just live with the physical scars and deformities because conventional medicine won't help you.
Then when you finally find a women that can stand to live w/such a "sensitive" man, and she can't get pregnant because she (or you in this case) has something wrong physically that a good diet can't fix, by all means adopt or buy a child, and if that child, God forbid was born with a deformed kidney, just let them die, because dialysis would be out of the question and of course you could never get a transplant for your baby because then it would have to have anesthesia during surgery and then gasp....take DRUGS to keep it's poor little body from rejecting the transplant. I could go on and on. Have a great day honey, I love you too. Missed ya, where ya been? Is your life terribly boring when you are not being mean to me?

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Um, those are crisis situations. I am talking about medicine. And disease. Always a pleasure, Robyn.

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Maybe we should clarify: Does conventional medicine mean anything that involves surgery or drugs? or is conventional medicine just the big pharma. controlled health system we are subjected to right now? If so, then where did you ever get the idea I promote that? My pleasure as well, Brian.

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Hey Robyn,

If I was in a severe car accident, and my arm was practically severed, I would staunch the bleeding with dried cayenne pepper (which is stored in my glove dept, normally in case I hit some little critter), reattach, and bind with a bandage. Add copius amounts of honey as a natural antibiotic and then poultice it with aloe and comfrey. Something similar to this actually happened to one of Dr Schulze's students, and he refused medical treatment, but was taken to Dr Schulze's school of alternative therapies. His arm healed a gazillion times better and quicker than being treated by a conventional hospital.

There are also cures for deformed kidneys, livers etc. The body has ways of healing itself using extremely strong and potent tinctures, herbal teas, body therapies and diet.

Dr Schulze himself was told at the age of 19 that he had an irrepairable and terminal genetic heart condition. He healed it himself. He also burnt his hand with 3rd degree burns, and the doctors told him skin grafts were his only option. He healed it himself using homemade tinctures, herbs, polstices as well as therapies like hydrotherapy. His process was not for the faint hearted however. He recalls seeing the whole thumb casing come off while doing the hot/cold water therapy, which was dead and burnt flesh.
He grew back his own muscle, tendon, skin and fingernails. The hand looks normal.

He has also been hounded, abused an imprisoned by the medical and health authorities for having his clinic, and now just has an online website for his products. I first found out about him through a series of dvd's and manual called 'Save Your Life', by Sam Biser. Much information for the ordinary person to make their own herbal tinctures, ointments, poutices etc using your own kitchen. Showing the difference in quality and potency compared to the mainly useless herbal preparations available today commercially. He is one of my health heroes.

Just wanted to share that with you. :-)

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Amazing Karen, Anytime there is a natural alternative for drugs or surgery, I'm all for it. I wish people had more access to this type of information. Where do you suppose all this got lost? I think most doctors genuinely want to help people, but they can only treat people based on the knowledge they have, and that apparently has become very limited. Very complex problem and I don't see the answer as any less complex. I was in a life threatening accident, and probably wouldn't be here right now, but I am, saved by what I suppose most people would call "conventional medicine." I guess we can only do what we can as individuals and try to inform the people around us, like you just did. I'll look for the "Save your life manuals" "Thanks, maybe I need to take back my sarcastic post?

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Robyn,
People do have more access to 'natural' alternatives to drugs and surgery. One is called the internet. Books would be another.

It takes effort to learn. Most people do not want to learn. It would mean they are taking responsibility for their own 'well-being', and who would want to do that? The good news tho, is
More and more people are coming out of their 'coma's.(which is a great thing!)

True, most Doctors really do want to help people, however, they are brainwashed, by the very same people who control the 'Public Fool System (School). They are not trained in Nutrition UNLESS they take a course in nutrition as an 'elective'. it is NOT a requirement (at least it wasn't back in my 'school days"-maybe times have changed) it is probably true that MOST (in my years of experience) want to help, however, it is the patient who 'trains' the Doctor. meaning, the patient comes in, and has an expectation that the Doctor 'cure' or 'fix' their 'dis-ease'. (after all, isn't that what doctors are 'suppose' to do?) So, often than not, the Doc will whip out a pill to the patient's expectation. Let's face it, most patients are looking for a 'magic pill' so the Doctor obiiges.(About 4 years ago, I was suffering, (and I mean suffering) with Chronic Insomnia, so much, i became a living 'nightmare'. I (who don't do drugs, ) went in to the 'local' MD, and asked him for sleeping pills. And, I kid you NOT, without even an examination, he not only handed me a few 'samples', but wrote me a prescription! (which by the way, neither of the samples worked!). Now, I ask, did this Doctor REALLY want to help ME?? Maybe, or, Maybe, I simply gave him an opportunity to receive his 'payoff' from big pharma (who is rewards him with a family cruise somewhere in the south Pacific?
Mother Nature always has, and always WILL take care of us.
I read somewhere (some time ago-never validated it tho), that for every poisonous plant growing in nature, that within close proximity grows it's antidote?
When people start to take responsibility for their own health, then we will ONLY need the medical profession for treating 'accident's.. And, just think of ALL the money that would be lost! Oh my!
Let us ask the question:
Who 'owns' the medical schools? And, yes, there are, indeed, many a "Medical 'Heretic'..
to understand MORE what I'm talking about, locate the book "Confessions of a Medical HERETIC" by DOCTOR Robert Mendelsson Or, "A Woman in Residence" by DOCTOR Michelle Harrison, MD.(and there are many more)
With all love and respect,
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
♥♥♥♥

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Hey Robyn,
I know exactly what you mean. One rule I live by is this: If you have nothing to replace it with, go with whatever is best at hand. If that is modern medicine, then so be it. Broken neck, ouch!

Dr Schulze was a real eye opener for me. In the series of interviews conducted by Sam Biser he talks about how the herbal apothecaries were slowly taken over by modern medicine. Tinctures were 100X more powerful a hundred years ago, and dosages much higher. Over the years with 'regulations' they became weaker and weaker, to the point of almost being homeopathic. His instructions to make a proper tincture included explanations on how and when to pick the herbs at their best, as well as dried.

You get as much fresh herb(s) and or foods (like garlic, chillis etc) as possible, put it in the blender with enough vodka to get it slushy and whizz. Pack it all down in a glass jar until the herb is about 1inch from the top of the jar, and add the rest of the vodka. Then leave for a minimum of two weeks, shaking it once a day. The longer you leave it, the stronger it is. I made up some comfrey tincture this way using fresh root. I left it for 3 months, and the texture was like really runny snot, and very brown. It was awesome. He explains that most commercial preparations only need to put in the equivalent of an inch layer of herb at the bottom of a jar and the rest alcohol, with only a few days brew time. He was very dismissive and sarcastic about commercial brands. Echinacea is meant to make your tongue go numb. St John's wort is meant to be a deep red colour. When he showed the commercial equivalents they just looked and tasted like water.

He sells his own tinctures and remedies online now, making his products the way I described. The series of dvds and the manual is absolutely awesome as it empowers you to learn and do it yourself. He goes not only into first aid and emergency stuff, but incurable diseases like alzheimers, ms, cancer, diabetes etc. His program is extremely full on, as it includes round the clock dosages as well as body treatments like hot and cold showers, cold sheet treatment, enemas etc. 90% of his patients would drop out and have varying results, but the 10% who stayed on his program were healed within a couple of months, including long overdue cancer and AIDS patients. He always goes on about having 'good patients'.

His website is: www.herbdoc.com

I got his manual and dvds from a friend, so not sure where to look for online. I'm sure if you googled 'sam biser' and 'save your life', you'd find it fairly easily.

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Hey Deni,

I used to work housekeeping at a 5* resort, and one week there was a conference sponsored by a pharmaceutical company for doctors. Being nosy whilst servicing rooms, I flipped through some of the literature they were given in their 'show bags'. They were promoting a new drug and giving specific expamples of how to administer it. Like 'compassionate doctor - and how to sell the drug in a 'good cop' kind of way. Then there was 'aggressive doctor' - explaining how to up the dosage and 'attack' the virus if no results were showing. There were about 5 different examples of how to administer the drug they were promoting. Scary stuff. I even took photos on my camera phone, like some crazy spy, and downloaded it on my computer to show my friends. Too bad I don't have them anymore after my computer crashed. Would have been fun to post them up here.

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