Obama declares swine flu a national emergency-Could this mean ???

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Permalink Reply by william banks on October 28, 2009 at 1:22pm

Were now at 89, this child was 11, this flu is going on now up north, it hits the young healthy children first, Todays the 28 and there are 89 dead ,dead healthy kids,,,the vaccine's score is zero deaths. at the hospital today the line is pushing 8hrs to get the shot it .
H1n1 is hitting strong healthy Kids,,,,it has nothing to do with politics on Canada, were just trying to keep our Children Alive..

if there is an affect to to vac, well the score is vac 0 h1n1 86 If I still had my son who was taken from me by Cancer I would not risk his life because some outfit that tells me the way I should live my life and there products ad's .
As I listened to the news there has just been a flood of children to the hospital in Ottawa, I get the health reports, lets pray for them, If you start to have any breathing problems run to the hospital, it attack's the lungs of healthy people but will cause a virus that will come into effect after 3 days and kill you.
H1n1 is taking pre-teens and teens .
F the Government F politics Save your children this is not a joke.and not the time to listen to the quacks selling there products.

Wash your hands hate me now wcb(3yrmed)

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Permalink Reply by william banks on October 29, 2009 at 2:21pm

Have vaccines done any good? Some of the killing virus were almost completely eliminated but are now making a comeback in north America because of the fear of the Government and conspiracies, If I stand on the corner with a big sign that says "SAVE H1N1" i;d look nuts, but those who hope other gets vaccinated to create a protective bubble around there world don't feel guilty while they spread the H1N1 to there families and friends . I understand even if new medicine has evolved from years and years of Native treatments, Chinese medicine, Folk remedies, it can't be said that us Humans our now living 30 years longer then we did 100 years ago.
The Flu in the 1920 killed Millions , if they knew there was a shot today that could save their grand children and it was refused because of some Obama guy
I'll only selling you something you already have and that's common sense. Death was 7 in 10.

* Diphtheria
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 175,885
Cases in 2003: 1
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

* Hib (<5 yrs old)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 20,000 (estimate)
Cases in 2003: 259
Decrease in cases per year: 98.8%

* Measles
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 503,282
Cases in 2003: 56
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

* Mumps
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 152,209
Cases in 2003: 231
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

* Pertussis (whooping cough)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 147,271
Cases in 2003: 11,647
Decrease in cases per year: 92.1%

* Polio (paralytic)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 16,316
Cases in 2003: 0
Decrease in cases per year: 100.0%

* Rubella
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 47,745
Cases in 2003: 7
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

* Smallpox
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 48,164
Cases in 2003: 0
Decrease in cases per year: 100.0%

* Tetanus
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 1,314
Cases in 2003: 20
Decrease in cases per year: 98.5%
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Willian Banks (3yrmed)

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Permalink Reply by Jessica on October 29, 2009 at 4:23pm

I understand what you are saying but many things can play into this. What would happen if we took a look at other diseases, disorders, and cancers that have risen since these vaccinations? I look at it as going into debt with your health; a "buy now, pay later" sort of thing. Why do they put so much crap in vaccines? One must also consider poverty levels, sanitation, and nutrition when looking at medical statistics.

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Permalink Reply by william banks on October 30, 2009 at 7:59pm

One think I keep forgetting , money does not really come into it where i'm coming from, our heath care is paid for in Canada, so it's not like a burden to show up at the family Doctor and get a flue shot or a check up.
That's one reason not to get the shot when it could mean skipping diner a couple of nights for some folks.
Dentists aren't covered, take out a loan to get a filling.

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on October 31, 2009 at 7:49pm

William:

How can you say money doesn't really come into it? Canadians pay higher taxes than Americans — the average family pays about 48 percent of its annual income in taxes — partly to fund the health care system. So there is still very much of a financial incentive for pharmaceutical companies to use unethical tactics in order to sell their product. In the end, it's all the same outcome. Here the money comes more directly from the individual, in Canada it comes from a income tax supported health care system. Profit is profit. Big Pharma cares not who's footin the bill.

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Permalink Reply by william banks on October 31, 2009 at 8:52pm

Hello Robyn, when I said money doesn't have anything to do with it I mean to say that our health care is paid for with our taxes, something I don't have any choice in, the shot is sitting there waiting for me to go and get, South of the boarder I'm not sure how it works but if your paying for your own health care and you have to reach into your pocket and pay for the shot, that's money you would have the choice to spend on something else.
I don't have a choice with social medicine, I should not have said what I said because I'm not clear on how the system works in the States.
If I had to pay for it because it was not covered I might think twice about something else I needed to spend the money on.
I'm still looking into how big Pharma gets it's fingers in the pie here. Our Hospitals aren't privately owned so when I figure out how the drug companies could be in a position to sell there product when cheap generic drugs get top billing, it's my mission to find out.

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Permalink Reply by Shannon on October 31, 2009 at 10:08am

William, no offense but I don't think you should call people who won't take the Swine flu shot "selfish." We are just making a decision in what we feel is our best interest as everyone, including those who choose to get the shot have a right to do and should do.

Also, I don't understand why people who take shots are always so concerned with those of of who don't. If you have so much confidence in the shot then what are you worried about? It will protect you from those of us who may be sick, right?

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Permalink Reply by Carol J Case on October 31, 2009 at 12:12pm

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Permalink Reply by che on October 31, 2009 at 8:42pm

Nobody is going to die from any flu's. Thats ubsurd. You have a better chance of dying from playing World of Warcraft. (I've heard of people staying up and playing for days with eating or sleeping,teenage boys of course) If your immune system isn't doing what its supposed to do than you need to take the time to find out why instead of chasing vaccines. Would you rather be sick for a little while or jacked up like that cheerleader? I don't believe there is a such thing as a safe vaccine. Not since the polio vaccine. Which was created in some random guys lab and not designed by the u.s government. What are you guys scared of? Haven't you guys learned anything? Anything endorsed by the U.S government is not good for you. At all. I have never heard of anything in whole life (i'm 25) that government endorsed that can help anybody in any way. Exept for when bill clinton admitted to having relations with Monica and when he admitted to smoking pot. Have you guys forgotted that this is the same government that doesn't want us to know how to read and to be obese and on perscription drugs from the time were born till we die? The same government who wants to put us in F.E.M.A camps. I don't understand what the debate is. If you are a doctor. I'm not directing this towards you William. Instead of selling vaccines why not sell vaigra. At least with vaigra i can have alot of fun and i won't be crippled or lose brain cells.

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Permalink Reply by Todd Zeigerman on November 1, 2009 at 4:28am

Mild Swine Flu & Over-Hyped Vaccine



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Permalink Reply by Robyn on November 1, 2009 at 10:56am

William: interested in a little research? I'll help you get started with a loan of some of mine. Happy Hunting!

Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation :

Located in East Hanover, New Jersey, Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation is an affiliate of Novartis AG /quotes/comstock/13*!nvs/quotes/nls/nvs (NVS 51.95, -0.47, -0.90%) , which provides healthcare solutions that address the evolving needs of patients and societies. Focused solely on growth areas in healthcare, Novartis offers a diversified portfolio to best meet these needs: innovative medicines, cost-saving generic pharmaceuticals, preventive vaccines and diagnostic tools, and consumer health products. Novartis is the only company with leading positions in these areas. In 2007, the Group's continuing operations (excluding divestments in 2007) achieved net sales of USD 38.1 billion and net income of USD 6.5 billion. Approximately USD 6.4 billion was invested in R&D activities throughout the Group. Headquartered in Basel, Switzerland, Novartis Group companies employ approximately 98,200 full-time associates and operate in over 140 countries around the world. For more information, please visit http://www.novartis.com.

They are also highly vested in the agrochemical business:

The top five Gene Giants (AstaZeneca, DuPont, Monsanto, Novartis,
Aventis) account for nearly two-thirds of the global pesticide market
(60%), almost one-quarter (23%) of the commercial seed market, and
virtually 100% of the transgenic (genetically engineered) seed market.
"The Gene Giants' portfolio extends far beyond plant breeding,"
explains Pat Mooney, Executive Director of RAFI. "From plants, to
animals, to human genetic material, they are fast becoming monopoly
monarchs over all the life kingdoms."
% The top 10 seed companies control approximately 33% of the US$23
billion seed trade worldwide.
% The top three seed companies (DuPont, Monsanto, Novartis) account
for 20% of the global seed trade.
% The top 10 agrochemical companies control 91% of the $31 billion
agrochemical market.
% The top five Gene Giants (AstraZeneca, DuPont, Monsanto, Novartis
and Aventis) account for nearly two-thirds of the global pesticide
market (60%), almost one-quarter (23%) of the global seed market, and
virtually 100% of the transgenic seed market.
Source: Rural Advancement Foundation International (RAFI) News
Release, September 3, 1999.

Vested in the H1N1 vaccine:

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,“Where the hell it got all these genes from we don’t know.” Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company (merged with Novartis). Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

Then you might want to start researching in the area of.....how powerful this company is politically....then you might start connecting the dots.

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