Vaccinations

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Permalink Reply by Bobby J on June 28, 2009 at 9:14pm

Many, if not most childhood diseases have been virtually totally eradicated in the civilized world due to vaccinations. Measles, mumps, POLIO, etc. etc. In some states, if a parent refuses to have their child vaccinated and that child causes another child (not old enough yet to get their vaccination) to become sick and that child dies, the parent of the un-vaccinated child can be held legally responsible for the death of the other child.

On the other hand, it's interesting that there are some parents (women) who refuse to get their children vaccinated but are perfectly willing to swallow a pill that will allow them to have their monthly period every 3 months instead of every month, as nature intended.....Now there's a VERY responsible parent.....LOL

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on June 28, 2009 at 9:19pm

It has also been noted, during research of the effectiveness of vaccines, that a very high percentage of vaccinated children still contract the very diseases they are vaccinated for if exposed. I'm all for them, if they are "safe" and "effective" which they are neither at this time.
How do you know the pill swallower's are the same women who refuse to get vaccines for their children? Do you know one? if so that's only "one" stupid mother.

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Permalink Reply by Bobby J on June 28, 2009 at 9:29pm

Actually, I believe it's a very low percentage who contract the disease they're vaccinated for, and for that reason alone, the vaccination is the better of 2 evils. However, I do realize that for some children, they may not be 100% safe. But neither are any of the diseases.

It is very important to know that those children who DID contract the disease (ex: chicken pox) after vaccination, usually had a milder case than those who were not vaccinated at all.

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on June 28, 2009 at 9:46pm

Low percentage, because they are not exposed. I said "if exposed." There is not a doctor alive on this planet, nor a vaccine manufacturer that will guarantee the safety of any vaccine. Try to get a guarantee in writing, won't happen. They simply are not safe. There is no way to know how your child will react to a vaccine until it is to late.
I'm not necessarily against vaccines, but I am, until they produce safe ones and stop using our children as guinea pigs.
And, I have yet, to hear of anyone who died from ck pox. Why would anyone risk "that" vaccine.

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Permalink Reply by Bobby J on June 28, 2009 at 9:51pm

That is all true, but then again, some of those diseases can be deadly as well. I remember back in the 60s when Polio was wide spread without the vaccine. Now you hardly hear of anyone in the U.S. getting it even tho many children outside the U.S. bring it to this country.
We have the same problem with measles and chicken pox, with kids coming from third world countries. Like I said, pick the lessor of 2 evils....It's still a parent's choice. I would never tell someone to vaccinate or not. It's their choice, and theirs alone.

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Permalink Reply by Linda on June 28, 2009 at 10:48pm

So, Bobby J.....
You must then beleive that its ok to put MSG, formaldehyde, thimerosal (mercury derivative), monkey kidney cell, beef heart infusion/fetal bovine serum, phenol/phenoxyethanol, dry natural latex rubber, neomycin and Ammonia Sulfate, aluminum and thimerosal (mercury derivative all into your body??

And then I assume you don't mind eating all the foods full of MSG as well? You don't think mercury is bad and even latex rubber is find to put in your body??

And I guess Kevin T along with about a gazillion other people including professionals of all sorts in the medical field -- are all stupid...

Not sure what your doing on a Natural health website..

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Permalink Reply by Tanya on June 28, 2009 at 9:50pm

haha yeah, i will not take birth control, no way, nu uh. you hear the side effects of all the pills?? unreal! so are you pro vaccines?

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Permalink Reply by Bobby J on June 28, 2009 at 9:56pm

Tanya, I can't tell who your last question is for, but if you're asking me, I'm for vaccines which can prevent the most dangerous of childhood diseases. I am NOT for some of those non-essential vaccines you hear so much about on TV ads. That's like Botox and other shit like that.

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Permalink Reply by Tanya on June 28, 2009 at 9:59pm

okay i see. i am basically talking about childhood vaccines b/c i have a new baby boy and in 2 weeks, he is due for his first shots. i am not sure to get them or not get them. my daughter had all her shots and is very healthy and very smart. she did get chicken pox very young, after her one year vaccine, but is rarely ever sick. i am very undecided.

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Permalink Reply by Bobby J on June 28, 2009 at 10:02pm

Well, I cannot speak for anyone else. Only myself. I had all my shots as a child and never got any childhood diseases. Maybe I was lucky. I still rarely get sick and have never been hospitalized due to any illness. I'm as healthy now as I was 60 years ago, just a little older....LOL....

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Permalink Reply by Tanya on June 28, 2009 at 10:00pm

i am also VERY against those non essential vaccines, like you are. the side effects are horrible!!! its just ridiculous. "may cause heart attack" and what not, yeah no thanks! lol

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Permalink Reply by Robyn on June 28, 2009 at 10:18pm

Much research should be done before making this decision:

A growing number of medical researchers fear that a monkey virus that contaminated polio vaccine given to tens of millions of Americans in the 1950s and '60s may be causing rare human cancer. To read more.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/01/polio...

The clinical evidence for vaccines is their ability to stimulate antibody production in the recipient. What is not clear, however, is whether or not antibody production constitutes immunity. For example, agamma globulin-anemic children are incapable of producing antibodies, yet they recover from infectious diseases almost as quickly as other children.

Furthermore, a study published by the British Medical Council in 1950 during a diphtheria epidemic concluded that there was no relationship between antibody count and disease incidence; researchers found resistant people with extremely low antibody counts and sick people with high counts. To read more:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/18/vacci...As

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