weight gain after hcg
I haven't begun the hcg proticol yet, but i keep reading how some people are gaining weight after all phases have been completed. Is what Kevin stated in his book untrue? Can you really not eat ANYTHING you want after losing the weight without gaining alot of it back? it makes me scared that i'm relying on this to be the one thing that will finally help me, and that it may all come right back again. will this still be a lifelong struggle???
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Permalink Reply by Bailey M on -
You can eat what you want. the key is to make sure that you are not going back to unhealthy ways. The large portion sizes are what is messing everyone up. I would hope that people after reading the books and doing the therapy that they would not go back to eating like a cow. You have to remember that you control what you gain. You have to do the protocol correctly in order for this to work the way that it was meant to work. I have seen patients that have done this back decades ago and they still have not gained the weight back.
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Permalink Reply by Jessica on -
I agree with this: Prior to doing this diet I didn't even consume 2,000 calories/day...I averaged much less, and danced 10-12 hours/week...and for some reason I couldn't get my weight to budge. None of the old rules applied. I even did my allergy elimination diet for 2 weeks (NO wheat, gluten, soy, corn, dairy, eggs, sugar, caffeine, beef, pork, etc.) and didn't lose an ounce. Not an ounce.
If that doesn't say something else was going on in my body, I don't know what does.
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Permalink Reply by Jessica on
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I have to assume from what you've written that you think people are overweight because they eat too much. If this is true, you missed the whole point. KT's books were all about the cause of obesity being toxins, bad foods, drugs, and most importantly, an out of wack hypothalamus. I am one of those people. I did the "diet & exercise" and lost 45 lbs. It was a hormone treatment/injection and illness that caused me to gain the weight back on a very good diet of about 75% organic and raw foods and nearly gluten free. I wasn't stuffing my face, I wasn't gorging or overeating. I kept a diary of my intake and still, I gained. That is why this diet is different. It addresses ALL THE OTHER REASONS for being overweight and gets to the bottom of a cure. If it was just about portion control, we would all be doing Weight Watchers instead of giving ourselves injections and starving on a 500 calorie diet for 6 weeks. This diet is not for the faint of heart.
I imagine that the reason why some people can get away with "cheating" and others cannot...and why some people gain weight back very easily while, while others do not gain at all is due in part to how intricately diverse we are from each other....in our chemical make up, our sex, race and age, etc. Not to mention the different health issues and conditions of health. The dietary guidelines are strict as a baseline.
Remember too that one's level of toxicity has a lot to do with long term condition. Pam, have you done any of the cleanses? It may not be enough to just eat organic foods. I was looking up the specs on a banana: do you know a medium banana has 14.4 grams of sugar? The general accepted recommendation is around 40 grams, per adult, per day! It also has over 100 calories and 27 carbs. And its a banana!!! I am only on P2 now, but I think I'll be more like Lynnette with watching CONSUMPTION of sugar and carbs, in addition to whether or not they are organic and from a natural source.
Hope that helps! I also hope I'm not suffering for no good reason! I don't know why its so easy for everyone else -- I've had a difficult time, its NOT the easiest diet I've ever done and on day 10, I'm still hungry!
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Permalink Reply by Pam T on -
I have to agree with Lynnette and Jessica. I was not eating large portions of food I do believe as I stated earlier it was due to what I was eating (carbs and sugar). I know now what makes the weight gain and when I do it again I will be a lot more careful. The only fruit I ate and still eat is a apple or grapefruit sometimes. I do not eat any other fruits because I am not a big fruit eater. Jessica I did do the cleanses, I did the colonics and the threelac and they all worked really great. I do believe it is because we are different and that is why some people keep all the weight off and some gain some back. I still think this is a great protocol and a great way for people like me who have struggled for years with weight loss. It just that eating only organic and anything you want as KT stated does not work for me.
Pam
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Permalink Reply by Jessica on
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Pam, do you keep a diary of your food consumption? It really helps me weed out extras here and there...and notice a pattern. I'm doing it during P2 of course, but I also plan to do it during P3 as a means of keeping track, should I gain or lose.
As for gaining after P4...I will not. Lol...that's my intentionality, the "reality" I'm going to create! Unless I go nuts and binge on McD's, I believe I will have reset my body to a point where it is "normal"...or the feeling of normal that I have had in the past.
I'm also going to do ThreeLac and cleanses during P3. And guess what! P2's 45 days coincide beautifully with a dance competition in the middle of May! I'll take my last injection, stay on the diet for 3 days and then go to the comp and be able to eat MORE!
Right now that is what my dreams are made of....eating my fill. =}
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Permalink Reply by Pam T on
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Jessica, that is great! I did keep a diary of what I ate. I am glad I did not go back to my old eating habits of McD's. I love eating organic and I will definitely continue to do that not matter what. You will be right on track for the dance competition. Good Luck!!!
Pam
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Permalink Reply by Summer on -
Hey Jessica! just wanted to thank you for all your personal input here on my discussion! lol...i haven't purchased my hcg yet. i tried calling bodysolutionsrx yesterday & was told that the rep, Kay, would have to return my call, which was disappointing to hear. She never returned my call & of course i'm still waiting now. i'm not going through ghi, since i keep reading how expensive they are. i'm not sure if i'd order through drugdeliveryca.com because i hear you don't need bloodwork & i guess i'd wanna make sure everything was in order w/me before i started injecting myself w/this stuff. i know i don't have any major issues, but maybe it's the scary thought of just ordering this stuff online, then shooting it up in me...? who did you go through? oh, & i also have read about different types of hcg, how one is better/more efficient than the other..do you know about this? i've also read how some people were conscerned about not receiving "real" hcg, but synthetic stuff! know about this also? & did u do any or all of the items in p1 (they're soooo expensive!) & are u just following everything in KT's book, or did u need to get additional info elsewhere for what to eat, etc. while on p2? sorry about all the questions, but i really need to know before i do this...lol thanx!! summer
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Permalink Reply by Orneryswife on -
If you are still hungry, you may need to adjust your hcg amount. The range KT says is between 125 and 200. We started out the first three days with 200, then went to 150, but we have gone up and down a couple of times, too. Either too much or too little can effect hunger and weight loss. When I start to slow way down, I dial it up or down, and have (so far) had a fairly steady loss with no hunger. Might give it a try...
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Permalink Reply by Jessica on
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Summer, I went through a company called "Native Healing Ways". I forget their affiliation to Dr. Simeons, but I think the woman who started it interned with him?...you can ask them.
Anyway, since I'd already had a blood test done within a certain amt of months, all I had to do was send that to them and pay a fee + the cost of the hcg, which comes already loaded and ready to go in syringes.
I've read about other people doing the mixing thing on their own, and oral, but at the time that I researched which route to go, they didn't seem right for me. My concern with oral is rate of effectiveness since its going through the digestive track...not to mention the fact that the hcg is most effective when injected into your muscle. I don't know why. As for mixing batches and loading my own syringes, I'm sure I could figure it out, but I'd rather just have the preloaded, ready to go ones and not have to worry about one more thing. That's my opinion.
The other reason why I like this company is because you have one-on-one support from their clinic by phone or email. I've had several discussions at length with their staff and find them extremely knowledgable and helpful.
And...since I was a return customer, I didn't pay the initial fee this time around. I think I paid $149 for 2 weeks of injections...and it is cheaper if you do a month or more at a time. I think it averages out to be around $50/week if you get a month or more at a time (not counting shipping of course).
That's the best help I can offer --- I think everyone should do the preloaded injections!
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Permalink Reply by Jessica on
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PS: Another major plus with them is that they're super quick with delivery! I'm in Maryland and they're in NC (I think) and it takes 2 days! I've read horror stories on this site about people who's hcg is delayed or takes weeks to get to them. Yuck!
Simple is as simple does. If you're gonna do it, take the guesswork out of it!
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Permalink Reply by Keim on -
Hi Jessica,
My name is Keim, new to this site and hcg. You like Native Healings Ways, thats what caught my eye. I just fininshed reading Dr. Simeons Pounds & Inches. I can't wait to start on the program. I am going to try them. Your info. is very helpful. I was wondering if it was really safe, but after reading what you have to say, it's helped me. thank you. Please continue passing your knowledge around.
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Permalink Reply by Wendi on -
Well I am on Phase 4 day 5...I have been eating whatever I want. Mostly organic..I did got out eat for my moms birthday to a buffet and even ate the ice cream. I am really wanting to test the protocol. Today I was up 2 pounds....BUT I bet I lose it by tomorrow. I think the important thing to do is to weigh everyday and to not let yourself gain it back.
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